{"id":10248,"date":"2021-01-31T13:22:40","date_gmt":"2021-01-31T13:22:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/?p=10248"},"modified":"2024-05-13T18:58:26","modified_gmt":"2024-05-13T18:58:26","slug":"many-katherines-have-a-vicky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/?p=10248","title":{"rendered":"Many Katherines have a Vicky"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

One of my DNA matches, Katherine, is a descendant of my ancestor,\nSamuel Sargent. Her tree indicates that she descends from the same Samuel\nSargent that I do. To be certain she and I were actually related through Samuel\nSargent\u2014and that there was not some other shared ancestor I simply had not\nlocated on her tree\u2014I looked at the shared matches I had with Katherine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I looked at what I am calling Katherine\u2019s pool of matches.\nThat pool consists of each of her matches and the shared matches have with\nthose matches. If the majority of Katherine\u2019s matches also descend from Samuel\nSargent (or someone reasonably connected to him on my genetic tree) then I\u2019ll\nfeel pretty certain that I\u2019m correct in concluding that the genetic connection\nI have to Katherine is through Samuel Sargent. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Katherine\u2019s pool was created from the five matches she\nshared with me. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tyler<\/strong>\u2014No matches I share with Tyler are already\nidentified to a specific connection to me. Matches of matches were also\nunidentified, but two matches did have the surname of Dingman which was the\nmaiden name of Samuel\u2019s daughter-in-law who is my ancestor. That may be a\ncoincidence. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexia<\/strong>\u2014First shared match with Alexia was a\ndescendant (LOT) of my great-grandparents\u2014those in my line of descent from\nSamuel Sargent. Second shared match with Alexia was a known descendant of\nSamuel Sargent. Other 15 shared matches with Alexia have connections that are\nunknown but they all had LOT as a shared match consistent with a Sargent\nconnection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

William<\/strong>\u2014William\u2019s genealogical connection to me is unknown.\nWilliam\u2019s first shared match was another descendant (GIH) of my great-grandparents\nwho are in my line of descent of Samuel Sargent. Another of William\u2019s shared matches\nwith me had LOT and GIH as shared matches. Another of William\u2019s shared matches\nis a known descendant of John Powley whose granddaughter married a son of Samuel\nSargent. The other six shared matches could not be determined.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Michael<\/strong>\u2014Two of Michael\u2019s shared matches with me are\nknown descendants of Samuel Sargent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fred<\/strong>\u2014One shared match with Fred is a known descendant\nof Samuel Sargent. Seven of the other eight matches are names that appeared in\nthe shared matches I had with the other matches I shared with Katherine. Then\nthere was Vicki.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

ThruLines pegged Vicki as a descendant of my ancestors\nJohann and Elska (Fecht) Janssen. Vicki\u2019s short tree only extends to her grandparents,\nbut I didn\u2019t need ThruLines to tell me how she was related as I already had her\ngrandparents in my database. The amount of shared cM she and I have are consistent\nwith that genealogical relationship. Confirming the relationship with Vicki was\nthe fact that the first six matches on our shared list of matches are\nindividuals I have already documented as descendants of Johann and Elska\n(Fecht) Janssen\u2014including two of my Mom\u2019s first cousins. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here is why Vicki matters and why the analysis of your DNA\nresults is not always as simple as it appears. I have many families who overlap\ngeographically. Physical proximity of families means that in some cases my DNA matches\nand shared matches with those matches can be confusing because of multiple\nrelationships or matches of mine sharing ancestors with each other that I do not\nhave. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then there is Vicki\u2019s genetic connection to me. She\u2019s a shared\nmatch with several of my Sargent matches, but her ancestral connection to me through\nthe Janssens is closer (a set of third great-grandparents) than my connection\nto Katherine and the other matches I share with Katherine. The connection to Vicki\nis also in a different geographic location: Ostfriesland, Germany, via Hancock\nCounty, Illinois. Even if I had been unable to determine the relationship with\nVicki based upon her tree, her shared matches told me that she was not<\/em> a Sargent descendant. She has\nentirely too many matches with my maternal families. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Sargent family in my background did not marry into my\nextended set of Hancock County, Illinois, families until 1898 after arriving in\nthe county in 1880. My other Hancock County families lived in two general parts\nof the county and many had been neighbors back east or in Europe. The Sargent\nfamily was the exception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vicki and I only have one shared segment of 21 cM of DNA. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Somewhere, at some point in her tree, Vicki probably had an\nancestor who is also an ancestor of some of my Sargent relatives—but is not\nan ancestor of me. It is possible that Vicki and I have more than one\ngenealogical connection. My suspicion is that Vicki is related to a small\nsubset of my Sargent DNA cousins. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you look at that list of shared matches you have with a\nmatch (particularly once you get past second or third cousins), do not assume that\nthey all have <\/em>to be related in the same way or even through the same\ngeneral family. There could easily be the occasional shared match with a match\nwho is related to you in a different way. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That match you cannot figure out can be an outlier. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Many Katherines have a Vicki. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

One of my DNA matches, Katherine, is a descendant of my ancestor, Samuel Sargent. Her tree indicates that she descends from the same Samuel Sargent that I do. To be certain she and I were actually related through Samuel Sargent\u2014and that there was not some other shared ancestor I simply had not located on her […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":11000,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10248","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10248"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10248\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11001,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10248\/revisions\/11001"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/11000"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10248"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10248"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10248"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}