{"id":1365,"date":"2015-11-09T16:41:14","date_gmt":"2015-11-09T16:41:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/?p=1365"},"modified":"2015-11-09T16:41:14","modified_gmt":"2015-11-09T16:41:14","slug":"why-no-box-308-at-ancestry-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/?p=1365","title":{"rendered":"Why No Box 308 at Ancestry.com?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The United States probate materials on\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com\u00a0<\/em>are, like any other online source, prone to errors and omissions. \u00a0It&#8217;s when the omissions are intermittent that it is frustrating.<\/p>\n<p>As an illustration for another blog post, I wanted an image\u00a0from the 1903 era probate of Barbara Haase of Hancock County, Illinois. I&#8217;ve been through the actual case file several times, so knew what I was looking for. I also had used digital images at <em>Ancestry.com\u00a0<\/em>of other probate case files for Hancock County, so finding Barbara&#8217;s file should be a piece of cake.<\/p>\n<p>No.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>A search of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kqzyfj.com\/click-865524-10470501-1404254934000?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ancestry.com%2Fsearch%2Fdb.aspx%3Fdbid%3D9048\">Illinois, Wills and Probate Records, 1772-1999<\/a>\u00a0at\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com\u00a0<\/em>failed to locate a reference to Barbara in the probate case files. Various entries in the probate journals were located, but I wanted the actual case file of original papers. Searches for Bar* Haa* located the journals, but not the case files. I broadened\u00a0my search for just the last name of Haa* (with Hancock as a keyword) and still not index entry for Barbara&#8217;s probate packet. I did locate the case file for her ex-husband, Conard Haase, who died at about the same time and whose estate was probated in Hancock County, so I must have been doing something right.<\/p>\n<p>Deciding that her name must have been read incorrectly on the cover packet for the case file, I decided to search the online digital images of the estate index to Hancock County probates at\u00a0<em>FamilySearch.\u00a0<\/em>There she was, with an entry indicating her case file was in box 308.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/hsection.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1366 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/hsection-1024x388.jpg\" alt=\"hsection\" width=\"450\" height=\"171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/hsection-1024x388.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/hsection-300x114.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/hsection.jpg 1121w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I went back to\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com<\/em>\u00a0and searched for only Hancock as a keyword in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kqzyfj.com\/click-865524-10470501-1404254934000?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ancestry.com%2Fsearch%2Fdb.aspx%3Fdbid%3D9048\">Illinois, Wills and Probate Records, 1772-1999<\/a>\u00a0with 308 as the case number. Certainly I could read the list of names and determine which one was probably Barbara.<\/p>\n<p>There was on match from the 1890 era. There had to be more entries in box 308&#8211;after all, the &#8220;H&#8221; section of the index indicated there was one other packet in that box besides Barbara&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>In reviewing the online inventory of Illinois probate materials at\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com, \u00a0<\/em>I discovered that box 308 was not included in their online images. Use of their\u00a0inventory of online materials is cumbersome at best. Users unfamiliar with this type of record probably won&#8217;t even bother to use it.<\/p>\n<p>Box 308 is simply not on the\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com<\/em> site&#8211;even though many of the other Hancock County case file boxes are online. Why box 308 is not is beyond me.<\/p>\n<p>My search approach was not bad. I should have looked at\u00a0<em>Ancestry.com<\/em>&#8216;s online inventory first. I just didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d skip a few boxes when so many of them are on their site.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately I made digital copies of Barbara&#8217;s probate years ago when I was at the Family History Library. I&#8217;ll just have to dig out those digital images.<\/p>\n<p>One can&#8217;t assume that even when <i>Ancestry.com<\/i> has quite a bit of a run of materials that they have them all.<\/p>\n<p>And why a few boxes were left out from the digitization is beyond me. They are on film at the Family History Library.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The United States probate materials on\u00a0Ancestry.com\u00a0are, like any other online source, prone to errors and omissions. \u00a0It&#8217;s when the omissions are intermittent that it is frustrating. As an illustration for another blog post, I wanted an image\u00a0from the 1903 era probate of Barbara Haase of Hancock County, Illinois. 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